If the whole is equal to the sum of its parts than our "whole" cannot be reached until our parts are gathered and acknowledged. This blog will act as a collection, a gallery that records our “parts and particles” (our particulars) in an effort to connect the dots; to endlessly connect the dots.
The Mosque is not actually ON Ground Zero but a few blocks down on the other side of the street. I believe that it is more of a cultural and religious center for several religions. I think that it is a very controversial idea that should not be controversial at all. It bothers me about what Adilla has repeated during class discussions, is how people associate all Muslims with terrorism, and stereotype whoever chooses to wear the veils. It is disgusting to me. I dont see how it relates to the book to be honest.
ReplyDeleteGround Zero is the place 9/11 happened. I think that some of America is afraid that a Muslim Mosque near a place a Muslim attack was preformed is not a good idea - because they may think they are going to do it again.
ReplyDeleteI feel that this is more sterotyping than anything.
- Like Adilla previously stated "not all muslims are bad" I totally agree. I feel that some people just like expressing thier negativity of races through this form of rasicm/sterotyping ;
The only way I can relate it to the book, I am reading - neighbors of inmates leaving prison, may not want the ex-inmates in thier neighborhood. There is no example in the book, just thinking about a different way too look at it.
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ReplyDeleteKnowing that it is not on gound zero thats fine. i think that they should be able to bulid their church were ever they want to. they live here and are now americans then should have the right
ReplyDeletei dont see a problem with giving repspect to the people that died that day. The families of the victims should have a right to say what they want on ground zero, and people that dont agree just need to accept that its for the victims and not their beliefs
ReplyDeleteI don’t see wass the big controversy about the Muslims building a Mosque BY ground zero… it’s not even on ground zero it’s a couple of blocks away from it… but if you turn on the television the media will mislead you to think it is ON GROUND ZERO…
ReplyDeleteEven though we had a terrorist on the trade centers that doesn’t mean they should be angry at the Muslim culture… I don’t think anybody understands wat the Muslim culture has to deal wit bcuz of the attacks and how differently ppl look at them and judge them…
Personal I believe wit the Muslim should have a right to build their Mosque… whether ppl like it or not they ARE Americans and they pay taxes and they work just as hard as any other culture, so why should they be excluded from society?
i believe thats it disrespectful to families of the victoms of 9/11. because, buliding a mosque there remind people of what happen on 9/11. also, the media is causing more problem by making a big controversy over it.
ReplyDeleteMike, you bring up an interesting point about the "tax payers' money". Where does the idea of "separation of church and state" come into play? Wouldn't it technically be illegal for the government to fund the construction of any religious temple/church, regardless of denomination?
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts on building a Mosque by ground zero is that they should NOT build it. They should NOT build ANYTHING there.
ReplyDeleteIt would not be economically correct to build a mosque in ground zero. New York would have to dip into the taz payers money. The country is in an economical rut to begin with, they city should worry about maintaining what it has already established. The buildings and streets need mending. They should worry about that before starting anything else
Ground-zero is a sacred place in a way. It's a reminder everyday that America can overcome anything, and still stay strong and United as a country. To put a building in it's place would be disrespectful to the memorial feel that ground-zero holds.
The issue relates to the text(True Notebooks) , in my opinion, the inmates will always be judged bcuz of the fact that they are “A THREAT TO SOCIETY”, they will never be given the chance to prove themselves and to prove that they made a mistake.
ReplyDeleteSome mite have taken the blame and are completely incident, but you will never know that bcuz they were behind bars. Just like the Muslims are all being blamed and being finger pointed, the same could of applied for the inmates.
basically, they would never be given a chance.
The mosque technically isn't "on" ground zero. It is actually accross the street. This country was founded on religious freedom and should always stand up for it.
ReplyDeleteI personally disagree with it being built there, only because polls show that 61% of New York state residents do not want it there.
http://dnainfo.com/20100805/downtown/new-york-state-residents-oppose-ground-zero-mosque-new-survey-says
I think that states can handle there own problems and we dont need a gigantic federal government overseeing and controlling us. If the state population doesn't want then it shouldn't go up. I also believe that the mosque is being built with taxpayer dollars? if that is true then i think the taxpayers have the right to say no. If the muslims don't have the cash then they can't build it. They can't depend on other people to fund a religious center because not everyone is tolerant of other religions or other cultures. I think everyone should be tolerant but its not against the law to be intolerant so they dont have to give there money to someone they don't want it to go to, no matter how irrational the choice. That is my personal opinion.
But above my personal opinions stand the United States Constitution. The law of the land. If the muslims have not broken any laws and they have obtained the permit to build the mosque there then they have every right to build it. There is nothing else to be said about it. They arent breaking any laws!
If they fund it with tax money then we the tax payers have a right to be mad, but unfortunately we have elected an administration that wishes to spend our money where want to. So if you dont like how the government you voted for is spending your money, go about removing them from office or wait it out and vote the other way. All you have is your vote. use it wisely.
People could petition and march on washington or hand out fliers, there are many ways to legally go about and that is what opposers to the mosque will have to do.
I retract my above statement about the mosque being economically correct. The money to build the mosque would NOT be funded by the government.It would be funded by those of the muslim and islamic faith.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the mosque would not be built ON ground-zero. The mosque is planned to be built BLOCKS DOWN from ground zero.
The controversey is "should a muslim/islam religon be supported blocks down from ground zero?"
In response to this question, there should be no controversey. Muslim and islamic faith should have the same exact right to build a place of worship on private property as anyone else.
The controversey is due to the distortion of our culture of the muslim and islamic faith. It being that there was a terrorist attack blocks away from where they would like to build a place of worship is irrelavent.
although i am not very fimiliar with subject i do see the oppritunity for strong opposition from the american people on this subject.. personally i feel it would help us as a whole understand and except the muslim culture
ReplyDelete@Mike… First off its not on ground zero…
ReplyDeleteAnd why should Muslim restrict religious belief? I mean some Muslims lost their families in 9/11 too… you say it shouldn’t be build ANYTHING… wat do you mean by “anything”? likk nothing at all or just not a Mosque at all?
As Adilla stated all Muslims aren’t bad, it’s a old building coming down… why not build it there? Just bcuz one bad seeds landed a bomb doesn’t mean all the seeds in general are going to do the same…
@jayon…
I understand that it is out of respect… but do you really think that it would be such a big deal if it was a Christian or Catholic church being build?
I'm not really tuned into that whole newsflash, but that's really provoking, it poses a whole slew of personal information. In my opinion, and yes a biased one as an American, I can't support this being slapped onto a battlescar from a violent plot. I feel Ground Zero is a living memory and should be treated as such, not a passing thought to be trampled on. It's far from dwelling, just the recognition that those lost as victims or saviors rightfully deserve. I'm hung up on this though not by the parallel of a Mosque being built, but rather the broader concept of something being made on those grounds, irrevelent of religion or following. From a legal standpoint, this is possible with the right funding and sactioning no matter how upsetting. But this is important, Constitutional rights shouldn't get canned because of a biased personal belief. This is relevant to to my text because both touch on the danger of opinion forming order over its actual nuetral components. Also the two share the concept of generalizing through a lense shaped by personal experience and of the unknown. If peeking through this does the viewer see radical fundamentalists, and when inversed does the viewer see an indulgant imperialist?
ReplyDeleteInterestingly, another issue in the news is centered around Ramadan. Ramadan ends on 9/11 this year which means Eid--the celebration--is on 9/11. Some people are "worried" about celebrating Eid because it could look, to someone uneducated about that culture, that Islamic families were celebrating 9/11. This associative issue (which could tie in really well with Adilla's blog question and peer comments)is obviously false, but could hold some accuracy considering that a lot of Americans do not know about Ramadan or Eid.
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